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Debate: do laser levels beat string lines for foundation work?

I tried using a rotary laser level on a slab pour in Phoenix last month instead of pulling string lines. The laser was faster to set up but gave me a 3/8 inch error across 40 feet because the tripod shifted on the dirt. My foreman said string lines are more reliable, but the laser saved me 2 hours of marking. Has anyone else found laser levels unreliable on uneven ground, or did I just pick a bad model?
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ellis.rose
ellis.rose23d ago
Honestly, that quote about "grandpa just liking pulling lines" hits hard because it's half right but misses the point. A 3/8 inch error over 40 feet is a big deal if you're doing foundation work, not skate park slabs. Concrete settling later doesn't mean you should start with wrong numbers on purpose. The tripod shifting on dirt in Phoenix isn't the laser's fault, it's user error for not digging it in or using a proper base. You save time with the laser but then waste it fixing a crooked slab, so where's the real win? String lines take longer but they don't lie when the ground's loose, that's why old timers trust them.
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clark.kelly
Wait, is a 3/8 inch error over 40 feet really that big of a deal for a slab? I've seen concrete settle and crack way worse than that after a season. You set a tripod on dirt in Phoenix, that's like asking your wife to park your truck on loose gravel and not complain. The laser's faster and the error is within tolerance for most residential work, so why are we acting like this is a crisis? Maybe your foreman just likes pulling lines because that's what grandpa did, and it's not about reliability at all. The time you saved could cover fixing that tiny error ten times over, so isn't the real question whether perfect measurement even matters when concrete's involved?
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nancy824
nancy8242mo ago
My uncle used to pour slabs in Vegas back in the 90s and he swore by a 2x4 with a level on it. Said "lasers are for people who can't read a bubble." Then one summer his level got left in a truck bed and warped so bad it showed level on a 3 degree slope. We joked that slab was built for a skate park.
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